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Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« on: December 31, 2015, 08:52:41 AM »
 

tbone40x

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I'm pretty much sold on the Giraud, just checking if anyone has a strong preference either way.
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 12:23:03 PM »
 

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A buddy on here (knightslugger) has a Giraud.  While I've not personally used it, he says that getting the flame adjusted correctly, and keeping it adjusted correctly, requires some attention to detail as it can be rather finicky.  Something to do with as the nozzle heats up from use it changes the gas flow or something like that.  Apparently some guys have installed valves to control this issue.


I have a Benchsource, and I love it.  I like the multiple torches, as I can point one towards the mouth and the other at the shoulder to get, what I feel, is a more even annealing (as opposed to pointing one torch at one spot on the case and heating that spot hot enough to anneal the desired amount of the case - so if you point it at the neck/shoulder junction, that area would get hotter than the edge of the mouth and the shoulder/body junction).  I have no science to back that up, and it could all verywell be in my head.  LOL


As for use of the Benchsource, I don't like the fact that I have to manually feed in the cases.  It makes sitting there waiting for the thing to go around VERY boring.  And if you stop paying attention, well, it stops annealing cases since you didn't put any in there!

To remedy this, I plan to make an attachment to allow me to use the casefeeder from my Dillon 650.  But I'm a bit lazy, and have several other irons in the fire right now.  I'm sure I'll get to it at some point over the winter, but certainly not today or tomorrow.


I also like that the Benchsource is available - last I heard the wait from Doug was running something like 8-12 weeks.  Not sure how accurate that is right now, this was a few months back.

I'll put up a post when I do finally make the getup to use the Dillon casefeeder.  Honestly won't be that hard, it's just a matter of getting to the hardware store and picking up a piece of pipe to use as the stand for it.
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Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 03:49:10 PM »
 

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I have a benchsource  and it is awesome I have never used a Giraud though.  I will say that Bench Source was awesome with regards to service I had probley annealed 5000 cases when my deck quite moving.  I called them up and explained what happened and they asked me for my email I had a shipping label to send it back and 2 days later I had a brand new annealer at my house. That is service no questions asked.  I can see my self owning a Giraud case trimmer soon though. 
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2016, 06:34:32 PM »
 

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I have an Annealeez (http://www.annealeez.com/) and it seems to do a decent job. It is much cheaper than the others.
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2016, 09:21:35 PM »
 

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Really happy with my Giraud.



 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2016, 10:39:09 PM »
 

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I' personally use a bench source and one of my friends has a giruard, both are great machines!  I have an automatic case feed for my bench source, his name is Landon ( my 12 yr old).  The giruard takes up more space in the shop......... I'm happy with the bench source, used it for the last 2 years and have run thousands of cases through it.  One word of caution though, once you get one you'll become addicted to annealing, I anneal every firing
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Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2016, 03:13:13 PM »
 

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I built one of "Skips Annealers" and it has worked great!! I have less than $100 in it and have done a thousand plus cases with it. Just google "Skips annealer" and see what you think....
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2016, 07:48:59 AM »
 

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Thanks guys. I ordered a Giraud yesterday. They said it would ship next week. I'm going to try it as it is, but will probably do the regulator mod before long.
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2016, 09:48:36 PM »
 

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Got the casefeeder plate & 308 adapter for the Dillon casefeeder.  Planning to hit the hardware store tomorrow to fab a mount. I'll post pics when i get it set up.
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Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2016, 11:18:30 PM »
 

Jeff M

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Got the casefeeder plate & 308 adapter for the Dillon casefeeder.  Planning to hit the hardware store tomorrow to fab a mount. I'll post pics when i get it set up.

Unfortunately, preliminary testing does not look promising.  :(
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Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016, 11:03:31 PM »
 

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I use the Benchsource as well. I really like the two torch combo and will soon be hooking it up to a 20 gal propane tank. The only downside is manual feeding but I sit there anyway to what the flame so that I don't over anneal brass.
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2016, 07:28:07 AM »
 

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I just recieved a bench source yesterday.  I really like it.  I knocked out 650 lapua cases last night.  I too, have my head spinning around the idea of a dillion 650 case feeder rigged up on it.  Untill then my six year boy is a perfect case feeder.
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2016, 12:26:41 PM »
 

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How expensive is the Bench Source? You have to send them an email for price & availability, which can't be a good thing.
So far, I'm leaning towards the Annealeeze. It looks like a simple, yet well built little machine and a price tag of $275 shipped makes it even more appealing.
 

Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2016, 01:15:24 PM »
 

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Send them an email?  Dafuq?  Just Google.  Plenty of places in stock.  I think I got mine from brownells maybe?
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Re: Which Annealer, Giraud or Bench Source?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2016, 11:58:20 PM »
 

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Send them an email?  Dafuq?  Just Google.  Plenty of places in stock.  I think I got mine from brownells maybe?

I'd gone directly to their website, not realizing that they sold through distributors.
Anyway, Graf's sells them for $530. For that much I could buy the Annealeeze AND Berger bullets, primers, & powder for 500 match rounds.