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Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« on: February 22, 2016, 07:23:27 PM »
 

fatboy

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I'm looking for a scope for my next rifle and thought the Burris XTR 5x25x50 looked interesting. i currently have a Vortex Razor HD 5x20x50 (love it) and a Viper PST 6x24 (really like it) was wondering how the Burris would compare in general and specifically how easy it was to attain a sight picture with the  XTR2 compared to the razor. Any help appreciated.
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Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2016, 10:52:57 PM »
 

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I bought that same scope with the SCR (MOA) reticle about 8 months ago & love it. Absolutely repeatable adjustments, solid clicks in the dials, great picture & Burris is a pleasure to deal with. I'd lost  a scope cap (included with the scope) & was digging around on their website to buy another but couldn't find them. I emailed them to ask if they were available & they sent me one for free including shipping.
I've never owned a Vortex, so I can't give an opinion of how they compare (but I know a couple guys who've had to send theirs back to the factory for repair, which is why I've never bought one).
 

Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2016, 07:35:20 AM »
 

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Thanks for the reply. Sounds like great customer service,will have to try and get my hands on one to try.
 

Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2016, 08:09:58 PM »
 

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(but I know a couple guys who've had to send theirs back to the factory for repair, which is why I've never bought one).

I still can't figure out this line of reasoning.  Never could.  How many BMWs and Ferraris and Lamborghinis and Harley Davidsons go back for repair?

They still sell the fuck out of all of those things, don't they?

Having to send something in for repair is a normal fact of life.  It happens.  Machines are made by humans.  Humans, by definition, make mistakes.  The only thing that MATTERS, is how a manufacturers handles repairs.  Are they fast?  Are they difficult to get an RMA from?  Do they charge you?  Do they say "sure send it in", but then try to blame you?

Customer service is what's important.  Everything breaks.  And if you don't think so, then you either don't know enough about scopes, or don't know enough people that do.  Hell, the PRS match I RO'd in Vegas, a lens popped OUT of a scope.  OUT.  No, it wasn't a vortex.  In the interest of not giving the manufacturer bad PR, I'll refrain from naming them.  However, they did replace the scope.  That same day.  In the middle of the Nevada desert.


Now, carry on.
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Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 01:30:52 PM »
 

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Yes, everything breaks eventually. The key is to find products that break less often.
I made the comment about sending Vortex scopes back to the factory because within 2 years I'd known 4 or 5 guys who had problems with their Vortex scopes. At the same time I knew one guy who complained about his Nightforce & another who was mad about a Leuopld.
I don't have any scientific sampling numbers that say "product A" is bad while "product K" will last a lifetime, but over the last several years I've paid more attention to consumer ratings and first hand experiences of those around me.
 

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 02:31:21 PM »
 

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Yes, everything breaks eventually. The key is to find products that break less often.
I made the comment about sending Vortex scopes back to the factory because within 2 years I'd known 4 or 5 guys who had problems with their Vortex scopes. At the same time I knew one guy who complained about his Nightforce & another who was mad about a Leuopld.
I don't have any scientific sampling numbers that say "product A" is bad while "product K" will last a lifetime, but over the last several years I've paid more attention to consumer ratings and first hand experiences of those around me.

That certainly is fair, and that is a good thing to do - but one thing you do need to take into account are WHICH Vortex scopes are being sent back.  Nightforce didn't have a "value line" until very recently, and Leupold, well, to be honest I don't know enough about them to even say.

But - which Vortex scopes were going back?  Crossfires?  HSTs?  PSTs?  Razors?

The other thing, since you mentioned being scientific (or not, as it were), is to take a look at the number of people you know that own one vs another.  If you know 30 guys who own Vortex and only 2 that own Nightforce, that's not really a valid comparison to say "Of my friends that own Vortex, 3 have been sent back, but no one has sent back Nightforce".  That means 10% of the people you know had Vortex problems, while your sample size for Nightforce is far too small to say.  I mean, would you say it's fair if one of those two people had to send theirs, and then you go around saying "Nightforce has a 50% failure rate!"  No, of course not.

Do be sure to pay attention to which models people are griping about, as I mentioned.  Of those that I know personally that own Razors (myself included), both 1st and 2nd generation (which is about 2 dozen guys), I do not know any that have had to send them back.  I, myself, sent a PST back.  I'm sure you could go on Facebook and find hundreds more people that had their Crossfire or Diamondback or other lower-end scope warrantied.  Who cares?  I'm not putting that nonsense on my competition rifle.  ;)
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Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 08:04:44 PM »
 

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I'm looking for a scope for my next rifle and thought the Burris XTR 5x25x50 looked interesting. i currently have a Vortex Razor HD 5x20x50 (love it) and a Viper PST 6x24 (really like it) was wondering how the Burris would compare in general and specifically how easy it was to attain a sight picture with the  XTR2 compared to the razor. Any help appreciated.

To give you an idea where I'm coming from I currently own 1 Razor 5-20, a PST 4-16, a PST 2.5-10, 3 XTRII 4-20's and a XTRII 5-25. So I've got a pretty good reference on the specific question.

My favorite glass of the bunch is the razor, but my favorite scope to shoot with is the 4-20 XTRII with a mil SCR reticle. The glass is not far behind the razor, and in 95% of situations I can't really see a difference. Sight picture/eyebox is pretty much a wash between them and both are forgiving and easy to aquire with, but the reticle and the absolute beastly ruggedness of the XTRII is what has me sold on them. I've beat the ever-living crap out of 2 of those scopes and they haven't missed a beat. Granted I'd say the Razor is just as robust but it's also fricken HUGE.

The SCR Reticle has made me a faster more precise shooter once I got used to it. It's that good for the PRS game, to the point where the ONLY other scope I'd currently consider is the Kahles with one of the SKMR reticles. And currently I can't really afford one hahaha.
 

Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2016, 06:07:07 AM »
 

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Thank you xc700116 that helps a lot. Now between the 4x20 and the 5x25 xtr what do you see as the difference besides the magnification difference of course. Would like to use this to maybe try the prs game someday.
 

Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2016, 09:41:42 AM »
 

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Physical size is part of it, the 4-20 is a bit smaller. Beyond that it's kind of a personal issue/preference thing which I'll explain a bit.

The field of view is much better at max magnification on the 4-20, for obvious reasons of course, but here's how it plays into the PRS game FOR ME, it may not for others. I'm a magnification whore and if I have it I use it, it's pretty much subconscious at this point and in reality is a training scar of mine. But it's one many shooters share especially on the clock.

Here's how it happens/works. I find my first target, zoom in, shoot, then transition for the next target, the 4-20 has a bigger  FOV therefore making that transition easier to do at full magnification, yes I could stop at 20x or less with the 5-25 and do the same thing, however, I have to make a conscious effort to do that, whereas with the 4-20 it limits me and I don't have to think about it, I just flip the throw lever to the stop and roll on. I also haven't found many times that 25 x was really needed over the 20x in competition, most of the time it's actually a hindrance due to mirage blowout and the aforementioned FOV thing. So there little if any downside for me, and it eliminates my FOV training scar issue.

Long story short the 4-20 is a better package for me for prs type competition shooting.
 

Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2016, 07:29:09 AM »
 

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That is logical and helps with my decision, thank you so much. 
 

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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2016, 09:44:18 PM »
 

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I've had two of the 5-25 XTR II scopes, one SCR Mil reticle, and the other with the SCR MOA reticle.  Even though I'm a Mil guy, I prefere the MOA SCR over the Mil version, but neither are that great in my opinion.
  Eye relief and eye alighnment is very unforgiving.  Edge to edge optical quality is poor.  Center 30% of the veiw is good, but outside the area, definition drops off and gets worse as you move to the edge.
  I didn't own either scope long enough to test tracking, or evaluate durability.  However, I did notice the finish is very easily damaged by scope rings, even when tightened lightly.

The XTR II does offer some nice features for the price such as FFP, 34mm tube, etc., I wasn't overly impressed with them.  Personally, I would give up some of thr features offered with the XTR II, and opt for better glass and reticle with a Leupold Mark 4.
 

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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 11:11:58 AM »
 

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I know the thread is a little old..... 

I didn't see anyone mention the H59 4-20 XTRII.  I think we will be able to get them before too long. 

I've only looked through these scopes and messed with the knobs, etc.  I haven't run one hard on a gun.  Some of my buddies have them and are enjoying them. 

I'm going to get the H59 4-20 and give it a good run. 
 

Re: Burris XTR2 5x25x50
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 12:08:07 PM »
 

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I made an order to CMC Government Supply for the XTR II 5X-25X SCR Mil FDE model with intentions of making a great match with my Mcmillan stock. I feel confident with the purchase but a little critique after reading a couple of these posts. I'm hoping I enjoy the scope and it holds a zero well. Burris said it won't become available until 2018 season, which only will allow me to pinch some more pennies and discover competitive scopes. Has anyone used the 8X-40X XTR? Thoughts? I'd imagine this is focused solely on F-class shooting which is not my intentions but would like to hear about it from any current owners. I've read Leupold stands behind a steep Military/LE discount, is this true? If so, the Mark 4/8 will only look that much better while I wait. 😑